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Old February 16th, 2008, 12:49 PM   #1
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Epic (And The Cliffster) Focusing On Consoles Because PC Gaming Is "In Disarray"

Originally Posted by Kotaku
MTV's Stephen Totilo caught up with Cliffy B yesterday, and, you know, they talked about Portal, and Gears, and other stuff the Cliffster was or wasn't into these days. It's a great read, if only because it's nice hearing from the guy again (Mark, we love you, but a man can't survive solely on Chocolate Rein)! The best part, though, is where Clifford (pictured, above, rockin' the Cary Elwes look) breaks the hearts of PC gamers the world over:

"I think people would rather make a game that sells 4.5 million copies than a million and "Gears" is at 4.5 million right now on the 360. I think the PC is just in disarray... what's driving the PC right now is 'Sims'-type games and 'WoW' and a lot of stuff that's in a web-based interface. You just click on it and play it. That's the direction PC is evolving into. So for me, the PC is kind of the secondary part of what we're doing. It's important for us, but right now making AAA games on consoles is where we're at."
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Personal opinion: The "Cliffster" is an idiot. I guess he expected GoW PC to do just as good as the 360 version, even though it was a shitty, buggy port (so I've been told -- multiple times), and when it failed to do as good as expected, he decided to stick to consoles and blame 'PC gaming' instead...

Good luck with that Epic, no one gives a shit. The UT franchise is old and there was next to nothing new about UT3. Gears of War was a fun game but it isn't the epitome of video gaming.


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Old February 16th, 2008, 12:56 PM   #2
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That guy brings shame to Clifford the Big Red Dog.

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Old February 16th, 2008, 01:11 PM   #3
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Console gaming will never compare to PC gaming, imo. PC's are always upgrading (and upgradeable) and PC games can continue to push the limits of new hardware (Crysis being one example). You can't push a console until the 'next' one is created, which is roughly every 5 years or so (console life span). It has the same hardware and the software has to follow the same guidelines and cannot exceed those guidelines. PC games can, and even after one year or less!

I had an Xbox 360 but I sold it and decided to beef up my PC and build a second 'gaming PC' instead. The games were disappointing to me, quick and cheap. There are just a lot more options for PC games, including (but not limited to) modding.

The real problem with gaming today is companies wanting to make money as fast and as easy as possible. While this is life (and business), it's starting to hurt the gaming industry. Advertisement starts as early as 3-4 years before a game is completed, creating massive amounts of hype just to generate sales. A good example of this is Assassin's Creed. The game was one of the most hyped up games for the longest time and when it was released it completely sucked ass!

Now lets look at a game like The Witcher. I didn't hear anything about this game until it was released. There was media around the net but it wasn't as popular as some of the major branded games and thus it never made its way to me. It also released around the same time as some of those over hyped games (Christmas 2007). Turns out this is a kick ass game! I started playing it and I couldn't stop. If the game is good, it will sell no matter what, and now that The Witcher has been out for awhile and people are seeing just how good it is, it's selling good.
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The one thing that PC gaming will ALWAYS have over consoles is modding. That expands the lifespan of PC games beyond what console can possibly hope for.
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Old February 16th, 2008, 01:14 PM   #5
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Modding, more options (like video options and hot key options). Easier multiplayer setup (and free!), etc era. No boundaries basically.

And I have the right to sound like a PC fanboi. I was a 360 fanboi but it let me down, time and time again. I'll continue to play 360 exclusives (like Condemned 2 -- until it's PC version is released!), my brother owns one and I'm going to take advantage of that. However I won't buy another 360 game or a console for a long time. *hugs PC*.
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Correction: *hugs uber-gaming PC*
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So you guys are constantly buying graphics cards and proccessors, often summing up to over a thousand pounds for what the xbox hasnt got "modding and hotkeys". Ok first of all the console modding era has just began with the release of Forge in Halo 3 which allows USER created maps to be downloaded off the official site, and the soon to be released spore will also have seamless content sharing. You may like Pc gaming, but If you really gave a console the same time and money you spent on your gaming pcs, you would have a vast gaming library, a large television all for the same price as a pc which will need to be updated in the coming months. At the same time you have to worry about Viruses and lots of technical issues.
The console gaming way of life is much more softcore to that of pc gaming, but if you have the time and the money to do it, go for it.

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Or go with both.

As for "updating your PC"... I'm not even sure I know what that is. My PC is still stock from when I got it several years ago And it wasn't even good back then.



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Hardcore PC Gamers upgrade their systems continually because a) we want to have ridiculous frame rates at 1920x1200 or higher resolution, extreme antialiasing, and all sorts of amazingly cool visual effects in whatever the latest, hottest game is that just got released, while their console brethren have to buy a brand new PS3 to get 1080p rez and are stuck with their hardware until they decide to fork over for the next system in order to play the next gen games; and b) because we love to tinker with hardware as much as we love to tinker with software.

Less hardcore gamers treat their PCs like Consoles. These days, a low to mid range PC costs about the same as a decent console and plays the same games -- albeit not at 1080p. Of course, they probably also use their PC for other stuff besides just games, which is why they own a PC, and not just a Console (since many of us happily enjoy both).

And lets not forget that an above-average FPS player on the PC, with a decent mouse and ordinary keyboard, can dominate an expert FPS player mashing buttons on a console.
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It's not just PC gaming, but it's PCs overall. I'm thinking about selling my 360 to get a good PC.

Here's what I spent on my 360:
Xbox 360 (2007) = $500
Xbox 360 (2009) = $200
Extra wireless controller +2 = $140
Xbox Live Point Card +3 = $100
Xbox Live Gold Subscription +2 = $200
Headset = $30
Wireless Adapter = $100
Total = $1270

Imagine if I spent $1270 dollars on a PC which is basically gaming and more. Also, you can connect your PC to your TV.

The only thing keeping me back from selling my 360 is my friends on it.

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Cliffy B is an idiot. I think he should just accept that nothing will change that, despite how ridiculous he tries to make his name. Epic should make another Jazz Jackrabbit game.
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He's just mad because nobody cares about his games now until he makes a new one.

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Gears of war 2 let me down so bad... It was totally screwed up from the start...and since when does 5 on 5 feel like a "war"? Its more like team paintball.
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lol I'm glad my thoughts on this seem to be the same as the majority. When I saw the title, I merely though "So...?"


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