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April 8th, 2008, 06:15 PM
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Reginald Assblaine
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Zombies Vs. Vampires
O.K. so everyone knows if you get bitten by a zombie, you become a zombie. Assuming that if you bite a zombie you also become a zombie, (because of infected blood or whatever) what happens if a vampire bites a zombie? Or a zombie bites a vampire? Do they become vampire-zombies? Does one undeadness overrule the other one? Do they cancel each other out?
Like on the news: "Have your say."
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April 8th, 2008, 10:11 PM
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Leroy
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Originally Posted by Reginald Assblaine
O.K. so everyone knows if you get bitten by a zombie, you become a zombie. Assuming that if you bite a zombie you also become a zombie, (because of infected blood or whatever) what happens if a vampire bites a zombie? Or a zombie bites a vampire? Do they become vampire-zombies? Does one undeadness overrule the other one? Do they cancel each other out?
Like on the news: "Have your say."
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If vampire bites zombie, zombie it becomes zombie vampire, zombie bites vampire, vampire becomes zombie vampire.
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April 9th, 2008, 08:41 AM
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MyNameDidntFit
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Hmm, a good question...
Depends on your zombie and your vampire really.
The classic Shambler zombie would not be likely prey to a vampire as their blood is either lacking or coagulated or dried up completely.
The infected zombie however... I'm going to say that if a vampire bites/is bitten by an infected zombie than they will become infected. This is based on the fact that vampires do have blood circulation and well, the virus will get into their bloodstream.
However, and I do stress this point, vampires do not seem susceptible to other blood-born viruses (HIV/AIDS, Hepatitis, Malaria, Ross River Virus, etc.) so it is likely that they would have an immunity to the zombie virus.
Without sufficient depth of knowledge as to how a vampire turns its victims (anyone know? I can't be bothered searching through billions of pages of vampire lore) I cannot say how it would affect a zombie.
My guess however is that it would not effect the Shambler in any way, shape or form other than two little holes in it.
The infected zombie is somewhat more complex in this issue. It would depend how the zombie virus reacts with whatever turns the vampire's victim. But essentially the infected zombie is a human being who's psyche has been horribly marred by a virus and who's body has been slightly mutated due to the same virus. In this it is possible to assume that a vampire may, in fact, be able to turn an infected zombie.
What difference this once-infected-vampire will have to its once-human-vampire comrades is entirely up to the way the virus acts under the environment imposed by the turning.
So, in conclusion, if the vampires have immunity to other blood born viruses than they may have immunity to a zombie virus. If they did not, however it would be plausible that they be turned. Though in turning the vampire I assume that it would not make it any different to your average infected as the virus would take it back to "feed and kill" reflexes. Though it may have increase agility and/or strength depending on your chosen vampire lore.
A vampire's bite upon a Shambler, in my opinion, would have not effect whatsoever.
An infected being bitten by a vampire comes down to what I said about the way the virus reacts with the toxins or whatever that are responsible for the turning of a vampire's victim.
I could go so much further with this; going into the intricacies of each class of zombie and different vampire lores but I'll leave it at this vague explanation of my thoughts.
--MNDF, Zombie Specialist.
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Last edited by MyNameDidntFit; April 9th, 2008 at 08:45 AM..
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April 9th, 2008, 07:22 PM
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Anibux
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FIRST!, Vampires are not real.. Second, Since they are not real vampires cant be bitted or bit anything.....but when the zombies come ill b rdy
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April 10th, 2008, 01:07 AM
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Leroy
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Originally Posted by ac3death
FIRST!, Vampires are not real.. Second, Since they are not real vampires cant be bitted or bit anything.....but when the zombies come ill b rdy
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Zombies are also not real.
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April 10th, 2008, 01:30 AM
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Anibux
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B-U-L-L C-R-A-P
they will be real.
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April 10th, 2008, 06:09 AM
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Leroy
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Negative ghost rider.
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April 10th, 2008, 08:11 AM
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MyNameDidntFit
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Guys; for the sake of this argument both zombies and vampires are real.
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April 10th, 2008, 11:16 AM
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Dangar^
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Slow zombies would get pwned, but if you had 28 days later style guys then they would stand a chance.
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April 10th, 2008, 11:52 AM
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MyNameDidntFit
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This isn't about which would win.
Its about what would happen if either bit the other.
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April 10th, 2008, 08:37 PM
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Reginald Assblaine
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Originally Posted by MyNameDidntFit
This isn't about which would win.
Its about what would happen if either bit the other.
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Exactly, this is a hypothetical question, with no real answers since none of this can be proved.
However, if you think through it logically, since the infected have blood then the vampires must be able to suck their blood. But from intaking the infected blood, do the vampires then become infected vampires? Also, I think vampires have the choice between turning who they bite into vampires, or just killing them. If I was a vampire, I'd definately make zombie vampires.
Yet with shamblers, biting and blood sucking would have no effect except to make them go "URGHHHHHHHHHHHHH".
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April 11th, 2008, 08:08 AM
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MyNameDidntFit
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And you basically put what I said into simpler terms there Reg 
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April 11th, 2008, 08:22 AM
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Reginald Assblaine
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Originally Posted by MyNameDidntFit
And you basically put what I said into simpler terms there Reg 
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I did indeed. Mainly cause I agree with what you said.
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April 11th, 2008, 09:01 AM
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MyNameDidntFit
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Of course you do, what I said is simply the logical version of how things would likely go. I put a lot of thought into these things and hence I get good results 
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April 11th, 2008, 09:10 AM
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Dangar^
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Well shamblers are most likely the living dead, so really they are vampires in a sense.
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April 11th, 2008, 06:03 PM
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xDemosthenes
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So I wouldnt think the vampire would be dumb enough to bite a zombie and what if zombies are only attracted to human blood therefore making nothing happen
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April 11th, 2008, 07:08 PM
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Reginald Assblaine
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What if the vampire is hungry? If there was an outbreak, there wouldn't be many survivors, leaving the vampires with mainly zombies to feed on. Therefore, unless they wanted to starve to death, they'd be forced to feed upon the zombies.
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April 14th, 2008, 07:40 PM
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Tomlufc
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Zombies > Vampires
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Urrrrghhh....Zombie!
Oh wow waffles..
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August 17th, 2008, 02:34 AM
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emiac38
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dude just wait for prototype to come out in 09...than, and only then will you have an answer....unless someone makes a zombie-vampire-left 4 dead mod before that comes out
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Well, I have been gone a very very very long time, I IZ ESPECTIN SUM WELLCOM HUGZ
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September 22nd, 2008, 01:15 AM
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Dontai
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Zombies and vampires are same thing. In fact zombies as we know them are based on vampires as finally admitted by Gar in some of his lasted movies and re-releases. Also why i am legend reminds me so much of zombies movies and vice versus. That is if you discard that last two films. Last one was ok, i guess. More then likely vampires would mob up with zombies and keep hunting.
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